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VR6 Technical Information - From Volkswagen of America.
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** Volkswagen VR-6 Engine w/ Motronic Engine Management System **

** Technical Manual **

*** Introduction ***

Volkswagen has developed a new six-cylinder engine called the VR-6.

This 2.8-liter engine is unique in that the V-angle between cylinder

banks is 15° rather than the 60° or 90° found in most conventional

V-6 engine designs.

The engine features a cast-iron crankcase, one light alloy crossflow

cylinder head with two valves per cylinder operated by chain-driven

overhead camshafts.

All fuel and ignition requirements of the VR-6 engine are controlled

by the Bosch Motronic M2.9 Engine Management System.

This Engine Management System features an air mass sensor, dual knock

sensors for cylinder-selective ignition knock regulation, and Lambda

regulation.

Exhaust gases are channeled through a 3-way catalytic converter.

*** Engine Specifications ***

Engine code: AAA

Design: Four-stroke, internal combustion engine in “Vee”/in-line

Displacement: 2.8 liter

Bore diameter: 81.0 mm

Stroke: 90.0 mm

“Vee” angle: 15°

Compression ratio: 10:1

Fuel and ignition systems: Bosch Motronic M2.9

Emission control: Lambda control with catalytic converter

The name, VR-6 come from a combination of Vee and the German word

Reihenmotor. The combination of the two can be roughly translated

as “in-line Vee.”

Volkswagen has designed the 15° VR-6 to take advantage of

conventional in-line six-cylinder engine features (single cylinder

head, narrow width and excellent balancing) with the advantages

of a V-6 engine design (short overall length and compactness).

*** VR-6 ***

The VR-6 was specifically designed for transverse installation

in front-wheel-drive vehicles. By using the narrow 15° VR-6 engine,

it was possible to install a six-cylinder engine in existing

Volkswagen models.

*** V-6 Conventional Design ***

A wider V-6 engine of conventional design would have required

lengthening existing vehicles to provide enough crumple zone

between the front of the vehicle and the engine, and between

the engine and the passenger cell.

Using the narrow VR-6 engine will help Volkswagen meet current

and future front-end crash standards.

*** Overview ***

The drop-forged steel, six-throw crankshaft runs in seven main

bearings. The connecting rod journals are offset 22° to one

another.

Overhead camshafts (one for each bank of cylinders) operate the

hydraulic valve lifters which, in turn, open and close the 39.0 mm

intake valves and 34.3 mm exhaust valves.

Because of the special VR-6 cylinder arrangement with two rows

of combustion chambers in the same cylinder head, the intake

runners between the two cylinder banks are of varying lengths.

The difference in intake length is compensated in the overhead

intake manifold. Each runner is 420 mm long.

Exhaust gases are channeled from two 3-branch cast-iron exhaust

manifolds into a sheathed Y-pipe. From there, they are channeled

into a single flow before passing over the heated Oxygen Sensor

and then to the catalytic converter.

The oil pump driveshaft is driven by the intermediate shaft.

Fuel injectors of the Bosch M2.9 Engine Management System are

mounted behind the bend of the intake manifolds. Besides being

the optimum location for fuel injection, this location also helps

shield the injectors during a frontal impact.

The water pump housing is cast integral with the engine crankcase.

In addition to the belt-driven water pump, VR-6 engine will use

an auxiliary electric pump to circulate water while the engine is

running and during the cooling fan after-run cycle.

In the interest of environmental friendliness, a replaceable oil

filter cartridge is used on the VR-6 engine.

The sump-mounted oil pump is driven via the intermediate shaft.

An oil pressure control valve is integrated in the pump.

*** Crankcase ***

The crankcase is made from Perlitic gray cast iron with micro-alloy.

Two banks of three cylinders are arranged at a 15° axial angle from

the crankshaft.

The cylinder bores are 81 mm in diameter with a spacing of 65 mm

between cylinders. They are staggered along the length of the

engine block to allow the engine to be shorter and more compact

than conventional V-6 engines.

The centerline of the cylinders are also offset from the centerline

of the crankshaft by 12.5 mm.

To accommodate the offset cylinder placement and narrow “Vee”

design, the connecting rod journals are offset 22° to each other.

This also allows the use of a 120° firing interval between cylinders.

The firing order is: 1, 5, 3, 6, 2, 4

*** Cylinder Head ***

The aluminum crossflow cylinder head is manufactured in a permanent

mold casting. The combustion-chamber side of the head is hardened

through a separate chill casting

Twenty stretch bolts are used to retain the cylinder head to the block.

These bolts are accessible even with the camshafts installed.

However, it is necessary to retorque the bolts after installation.

Holes for bolts, numbers 12 and 20 are sleeved to make cylinder head

installation easier.

To help optimize flow through the cylinder head, the area above the

valve seats has been machined. Valve shaft diameter has been reduced

to 7.0 mm during development.

Cylinders 1, 3, and 5 have short intake runners and long exhaust

runners while cylinders 2, 4, and 6 have long intake runners and

short exhaust runners.

A crossflow cylinder head has allowed the use of a single cylinder

exhaust manifold rather than a manifold for each bank.

*** Combustion Chamber ***

The surface of the combustion side of the cylinder head is flat.

The combustion chamber is formed by the shape of the piston head.

Ten different piston designs were tested during development of the

VR-6 engine.

The result of these tests was the selection of a slanted piston

head within eccentric trough. The trough is offset from the center

of the piston by 4.0 mm.

Compression gap height (at TDC) is 1.5 mm. The compression ratio is

10:1.

*** Chain tensioners ***

Operated by oil pressure and spring tension.

The camshafts are driven by a two-stage chain-drive system located

on the flywheel side of the engine.

Chains were selected to drive the valve train in consideration of

a Diesel version of the VR-6 engine.

A single chain (lower) is driven by the crankshaft which, in turn,

drives an intermediate sprocket and shaft at a ratio of 3:4.

The intermediate shaft sprocket drives the camshafts via a double

roller chain (upper) at a ratio of 2:3. A double roller chain is

used to drive the camshaft sprockets because it must transfer more

torque than the lower chain.

The specific gear ratio selection was chosen in order to keep the

camshaft sprocket size small. This helps keep the overall engine

height to a minimum.

Chain tension is maintained by two chain tensioners. The upper

chain tensioner is hydraulically operated by engine oil pressure

and spring tension.

The lower chain tensioner (with mechanical lock) is operated by

spring tension and lubricated with engine oil.

Chain flutter is prevented by guide rails on the slack side of

both chains.

*** Engine Cooling System ***

The VR-6 Engine uses an impeller-type water pump driven by the

poly-ribbed belt.

The pump housing itself is cast into the engine block adjacent

to cylinder number 2.

In addition, an Auxiliary Electric Coolant Pump also circulates

engine coolant anytime the ignition is switched on.

The Auxiliary Electric Coolant Pump also runs when the engine

is switched off and the coolant temperature goes over 107° C (220° F).

It runs in conjunction with the Radiator Cooling After-run System.

Circulating the coolant during this time helps cool the engine

block and prevent the possibility of air pockets forming in the

cylinder head.

The thermostat housing of the cooling system also houses the

temperature senders G2, and F87 for the Radiator Cooling After-run

System, and temperature sender G62 for the Motronic Engine Management

System.

*** Intake Manifold ***

Volumetric efficiency must be uniform to attain smooth engine

running and optimal power output under all operating conditions.

This, in turn, requires identical flow conditions in the intake

ports of all cylinders.

Since the lengths of the intake runners in the VR-6 cylinder head

are not equal, it was necessary to compensate with the internal

design of the intake manifold.

All air intake passages are 420 mm long.

*** Auxiliary Drives ***

A double-sided poly-ribbed belt drives all the auxiliary components

of the VR-6 engine.

A spring-operated tensioning roller keeps the poly-ribbed belt at

the proper tension. The belt tension is released by threading a

long 8 mm bolt into a threaded hole on the tensioner.

*** System Overview ***

The VR-6 engine will use the Motronic Engine Management System

version M2.9.

All Corrados will have EGR while only California-version Passats

will have EGR.

*** Fuel Delivery System ***

A two stage fuel pump supplies fuel through the filter to the fuel

manifold and the four hole injectors. The pump is located in the

fuel tank.

The fuel manifold is located on the intake manifold. A fuel pressure

regulator is attached to the fuel manifold on the fuel return side.

The fuel pressure regulator is a diaphragm-type regulator. Fuel

pressure is regulated depending on intake manifold pressure.

As intake manifold pressure changes, the pressure regulator will

increase or decrease the system fuel pressure. This maintains

constant pressure differences between the intake manifold pressure

and fuel pressure.

*** Two-Stage Fuel Pump ***

The two-stage pump has one motor that drives two separate pumps.

• Stage One *



Fuel is drawn in through a screen at the bottom of the housing

by a vane-type pump. The vane-type pump acts as a transfer pump.

It’s designed to supply fuel to the fuel accumulator which is

within the pump housing.

Fuel vapors and air bubbles from fuel returning from the engine,

as well as excessive fuel, is forced out of the accumulator through

a fuel vent.

• Stage Two *



The gear-type pump draws fuel in from the bottom of the accumulator

and through a screen. The fuel is then forced through the pump

housing by the gear pump and out the top.

*** Fuel Injectors ***

The injectors are supplied 12 volts by the Power Supply Relay and

are grounded through the Motronic ECU. They are opened sequentially

in the cylinder firing order.

Injection quantity is determined by the injector opening time.

*** Fuel Tank Ventilation ***

The following inputs are used to control the fuel tank ventilation:

.Engine speed

.Engine load

.Engine coolant temperature

.Signal from throttle valve Potentiometer (G69)



Fuel vapors from the fuel tank are vented to the carbon canister.

When the engine is warm and above idle speed, the vapors will be

drawn into the intake manifold via the carbon canister.

Depending on engine load and oxygen sensor signal, a frequency valve

will regulate the quantity of vapors entering the intake manifold from

the carbon canister

• Carbon Canister Frequency Valve (N80) *



The ECU determines the duty cycle of the frequency valve to regulate

the flow of fuel vapors from the carbon canister to the engine.

When no current is supplied to the valve, it remains in the open

position.

The valve is closed (duty cycle 100%) when the cold engine is started.

• Triggering: *



The Carbon Canister Frequency Valve (N80) begins to operate after

oxygen sensor operation has begun.

Valve operation is load- and speed-dependent during driving operation.

The valve is completely open at full throttle and completely closed

during deceleration fuel shut-off.

• Substitute function: *



If power to the valve is interrupted, the valve remains completely open.

This could lead to rough running at idle speed and during partial load

acceleration.

• Self-diagnosis: *



The ECU recognizes open circuits and short circuits in the component.

*** Air Mass Sensor (G70) ***

A hot-wire air mass sensor is used to measure the airflow into the

engine. The air mass sensor is attached to the air filter housing.

The sensor housing includes a baffle grid which reduces air turbulence

and pulses. The sensor has no moving parts.

A thin, electrically-heated , platinum hot-wire in the sensor is kept

180°C (356°F) above the air temperature measured by the thin-layer

platinum temperature sensor.

As airflow increases, the wires are cooled and the resistance of the

sensors changes. Current to the platinum hot-wire changes to maintain

the constant temperature difference.

The resulting current change is converted to a voltage signal and is

used by the Motronic ECU to calculate the volume of air taken in.

Dirt or other contamination on the platinum wire can cause inaccurate

output signals. Because of this, the platinum wire is heated to 1000° C

(1832° F) for a period of one second each time the engine is switched

off to burn off this dirt or contamination.

If a fault develops with the signal from the air mass sensor, the signal

from the throttle potentiometer is used as a substitute in order for

the car to remain derivable.

*** Throttle Valve Potentiometer (G69) ***

The throttle valve potentiometer is connected to the throttle valve

shaft. It informs the ECU about the power requested by the driver.

Idle and full load switched are not incorporated in the Throttle Valve

Potentiometer. Idle speed and full throttle applications are recognized

by the ECU from the voltage output of the potentiometer.

• Signal application: *



Throttle Valve Potentiometer signals are used for determination of idle

speed stabilization, idle air volume control, fuel after-run shut-off

and fuel load enrichment.

• Substitute function: *



The ECU uses the Air Mass Sensor signal and engine speed signal as a

replacement variables if the Throttle Valve Potentiometer fails.

• Self-diagnosis: *



Self-diagnosis recognizes:

Short circuits to positive

Short circuits to ground



Note: On vehicles with automatic transmission, this potentiometer is

combined in a housing with the potentiometer for the transmission

control.

*** Engine Speed / Reference Sensor (G28) ***

Engine speed and crankshaft position are registered by a single sensor

located on the engine block.

The sensor reads a toothed wheel mounted on the crankshaft to read

engine speed.

The toothed wheel has a two-tooth gap which is used as the measuring

point for the crankshaft position.

• Signal application: *



The signal is used for registration of engine speed and, in conjunction

with the signal from the Hall Sender, for recognition of ignition TDC

in cylinder Number 1.

• Substitute function: *



There is no substitute functions for Speed Reference Sensor G28.

• Self-diagnosis: *



The ECU recognizes a missing signal from the Speed/Reference Sensor

after cranking the engine for five seconds. An impulsing signal

is recognizes by self-diagnosis when the reference mark signal and

Hall sender signal do not correspond.

• Hall Sender (G40) *



The Hall sender is mounted in the ignition distributor. It is an

electric control switch based on the Hall effect.

The hall sender consists of a magnetic enclosure and integrated

semiconductor circuit (the Hall IC). the IC is made of plastic to

protect it from dampness, soiling and mechanical damage.

A voltage signal is generated when the trigger wheel interrupts the

magnetic field created by the Hall IC. The trigger wheel turns at

camshaft speed. This means that the Hall sender generates one voltage

signal for every two crankshaft revolutions.

• Signal usage: *



The Hall Sender (G40) signal and the Engine Speed/Reference Sensor

(G28) signals are used to identify cylinder Number 1 for sequential

fuel injection and knock regulation.

• Substitute function: *



There is no substitute function for the Hall Sender signal. The

vehicle will start and run without this signal but the ignition

timing will be retarded and there will be no sequential fuel injection.

• Self-diagnosis: *



The ECU will recognize a break in wiring or a continuously applied

signal voltage (during start attempts as well).

*** Knock Sensor I (G61) And Knock Sensor II (G66) ***

Two knock sensors are used. A knock sensor works like a microphone to

“listen” for spark knock or detonation.

When knocking occurs, the ignition timing is retarded until the knocking

is eliminated. Since the knock limit differs from cylinder to cylinder

and changes within the operating range, knock regulation is done cylinder selectively.

• Signal usage: *



Knock regulation does not occur until the engine coolant temperature of

40° C (104° F) is reached. Knock sensor I (G61) monitors cylinders 1,

2,

and 3. Knock sensor II (G66) monitors cylinder s 4, 5 and 6.

With the aid of the Hall sender signal, the ECU can determine which

cylinder is knocking. The ignition angle of the knocking cylinder is

retarded in steps until the knocking stops up to a maximum of 12°.

If spark knock is still detected, the ECU will retard the ignition

timing 11° for all cylinders and record a fault.

• Substitute function: *



If a knock sensor fails, the ignition timing angle of its assigned

cylinders is retarded.

• Self-diagnosis: *



The ECU recognized an open circuit if no signal from knock sensor I

(G61)

or knock sensor II (G66) is received by the ECU at an engine coolant

temperature above 40° C (104° F).

*** Oxygen Sensor (G39) ***

The oxygen sensor (G39) is made of a ceramic material called zirconium

dioxide. The inner and outer surfaces of the ceramic material are

coated with platinum. The outer platinum surface is exposed to the

exhaust gas, while the inner surface is exposed to the outside air.

The difference in the amount of oxygen contacting the inner and outer

surfaces of the oxygen sensor creates a pressure differential which

results in a small voltage signal in the range of 100 to 1000 mV.

The amount of voltage that is produced is determined by the fuel

mixture.

The oxygen sensor (G39) is heated electrically to keep it at constant

operating temperature. The heater also ensures that the sensor comes

to operating temperature quickly.

The sensor has four wires. Two are for the heating element (ground and

power). One wire is a signal wire for the sensor and one for the

ground.

• Signal usage: *



The base injection time is corrected according to the voltage signal

from the oxygen sensor to maintain a fuel/air ratio of approximately

14.7:1.

This allows the three-way catalytic converter to operate at its maximum

efficiency.

If the fuel mixture is lean (excess oxygen), the oxygen sensor will send

a low voltage signal (about 100mV) to the ECU.

If the fuel mixture is rich (lack of oxygen), the oxygen sensor will

send

a voltage signal (about 900 mV) to the ECU.

• Substitute function: *



There is no substitute function for oxygen sensor (G39).

If signal fails, no oxygen sensor regulation takes place.

• Self-diagnosis: *



The ECU recognizes a fault if no reasonable signal voltage range is

attained within five minutes after engine start with an engine coolant

temperature over 40° C (104° F).

The ECU also recognizes a open circuit in the wiring or a short circuit

to ground and short circuit to positive (sensor heating).

*** Coolant Temperature Sensor (G62) ***

Coolant Temperature Sensor (G62) is an NTC resistor. It’s located in

the

thermostat housing. AS engine coolant temperature rises, the resistance

of the sensor goes down.

• Signal application: *



Coolant temperature sensor signals are required as a correction factor

for determination of ignition timing, injection timing and idle speed

stabilization.

In addition, these systems are activated depending on engine coolant

temperature:

.Knock control

.Adaptation of idle speed volume control

.Oxygen sensor operation

.Fuel tank venting



• Substitute function: *



A fixed value of 80° C (176° F) is stored in the memory of the ECU and

used in case of a faulty coolant temperature signal.

• Self-diagnosis: *



Self-diagnosis recognizes:

Short circuits to positive

Short circuits to ground



*** Intake Air Temperature Sensor (G42) ***

An intake air temperature sensor is located in the intake manifold on

the left side.

• Signal application: *



The signal is used for idle stabilization and as a correction factor for

ignition timing.

• Substitute function: *



If a failure of the Intake Air Temperature Sensor (G42) occurs, the

Motronic Electronic Control Unit assumes a temperature of 20° C (68° F).

If this happens, cold start problems could occur at temperatures under

0° C (32° F).

• Self-diagnosis: *



The Motronic ECU recognizes open and short circuits to this component.

*** EGR System ***

All Corrados will come equipped with EGR (Exhaust Gas Recirculation).

Passats sold in California will be equipped with EGR. The EGR system is

used to reduce nitrous oxide emissions (NOx). The system recirculates a

small portion of exhaust gas into the intake mixture.

This exhaust gas is noncombustible and takes up a small space in the

intake charge. The results is lower combustion temperatures and reduced

NOx emissions.

The EGR system does not operate at idle because NOx emissions are low

during this time.

• EGR Frequency Valve (N18) *



The EGR Frequency Valve (N18) is mounted on the back of the intake

manifold. A control pressure (vacuum) is formed in the frequency valve

from the intake manifold pressure and atmospheric pressure (from the

intake air elbow). This pressure is applied to the EGR valve via the

EGR frequency valve (N18).

The frequency valve controls the amount of vacuum supplied to the EGR

valve by switching between the connection to the EGR valve and the

intake air boot.

Thus, the actual amount of recirculated exhaust gas can be determined

by the ECU, depending on engine speed and load conditions. A membrane

valve limits the vacuum supplied to the frequency valve at 200 mbar.

• Self-diagnosis: *



The ECU will recognize an open circuit or short circuit in the EGR

frequency valve. If the EGR valve remains continuously open or closed

because of mechanical failure, the EGR temperature sensor (G98) will

signal this to the control unit.

• Triggering: *



The frequency valve (N18) ground circuit is controlled by the ECU

depending on engine load and speed.

• Substitute function: *



There is no substitute function. If current to the frequency valve

(N18) is interrupted, the EGR valve will remain closed.

• EGR Temperature Sensor (G98) *



The EGR temperature sensor (G98) is located in the EGR valve exhaust

gas channel. It measures the temperature of the exhaust gas.

The sensor is an NTC resistor. The electrical resistance of the

sensor decreases as the temperature of the exhaust gas increases.

• Signal usage: *



The signal from the EGR temperature sensor (G98) is used only for

the diagnosis of the EGR system and has no influence on the control.

• Substitute function: *



There is no substitute function.

• Self-diagnosis: *



The EGR system is switched on when the engine coolant temperature

reaches 50° C (122° F).

*** Crankcase Ventilation ***

Crankcase vapors are vented from the cam cover to the intake air boot.

A heating element is used to prevent icing during cold weather.

PIN 1 = Positive (+)

PIN 2 - To engine ground

*** Idle Stabilizer Valve (N71) ***

• Triggering: *



The idle stabilizer valve (N71) is actuated on the ground side by the

ECU.

• Substitute function: *



When a defect in the circuit is recognized, both output stages are shut

off and the valve rotates to a fixed opening cross-section. This allows

the engine to idle at a warm engine idle speed.

• Self-diagnosis: *



The ECU recognizes open and short circuits in the component.

• Ignition System *



Input Signals for Regulation of Ignition System

.Engine speed

.Engine load

.Signal from knock sensors

.Signal from throttle valve potentiometer

.Coolant temperature

.Signal from Hall sender



Functions of Ignition System:

.Ignition timing correction

.Dwell angle regulation

.Idling speed stabilization

.Selective cylinder knock regulation



The control unit uses the engine load and engine speed signals as well

as

the signal from the throttle valve potentiometer to calculate the ignition timing.

If signals from the knock sensors indicate knocking combustion, the

control

unit retards the ignition timing of the knocking cylinder by 3° to max.

12°

until the knocking tendency of the concerned cylinder is reduced.

When the knocking tendency no longer exists, the ignition timing is returned

to the nominal value in steps of 0.5°.

When knocking occurs, the ignition timing can be different for all

cylinders

because of the selective cylinder knock regulation.

Fluctuations in the idling speed range are compensated by changing the

ignition timing with the help of idling speed stabilization.

The control unit receives the idling speed signal from the throttle valve potentiometer.

Dwell angle regulation guarantees the necessary charging time of the

ignition coil and, therefore, ignition voltage, regardless of speed and

load conditions.

Coolant temperature signals are required to correct the ignition timing

of a cold engine and activate knock regulation.

*** Power Supply Components ***

Power for the Motronic Engine Management systems is supplied via Fuse

(S18) and three relays:

Fuel Pump Relay (J17)

(Position 12)

Power Supply Relay (J271)

(Position 3)

Oxygen Sensor Heater Power Supply Relay (J278)

(above main Central Electric Panel)

There is no internal power stage relay in the Motronic ECU.

Wiring for the Motronic Engine Management system is routed to the engine

via a single multi-pin connector. This makes engine removal quicker and

provides a test point for trouble shooting procedures.

A central ground station is located on the engine block below the intake

manifold.

It provides a ground point for:

.ECUs

.Sensors for the Motronic Engine Management system (and their shielding)

.Output components (injectors, etc.)

• end—
 
Član
ja stvarno nisam fan VR-a, 2.8 ccm i samo 170-ak konja ... stvarno malo.... kad jedna honda iz 1.6 vadi 160 ps ... drugo, to je jaaako tezak motor, i onda imas plesanje preko nosa ... jedino zvuuuk je prejak :)
po meni, vrh VW-a je 1.8T :)
 
Legend
Ja imam osjecaj kao da je VR trebao da bude nesto puno vise, nesto strasno, pa su onda tamo negdje u fabrici rekli alo ba izginuce raja ajde da ostavimo ovako kako je.

Jer koliko potencijala ima taj motor, mislim da se dogradzuje na njega i turbo i svasta nesto. Strasno skroz.

Nesto me zeza youtube pa nemogu da dignem dva prateca klipa, al evo pokusacu opet. EIP stage 5 VR6, ali je street legal auto, i pise tamo covjek e presao ukupno 3.000 kilometara do staze odvozio treninge i street race, vozio svaki put 10.7 i otisao opet nazad 3.000 kilometara.
Brdo snage.
 
Član
>Hm ... da jeste ,.. firma jedna u Švicarskoj (zaboravih ime) ugrađuje normalno Bi-Turbo i diže na 430 konja normalno ... ali nije to fazon kad se moraš uvaliti još para da kola idu, a opet jeba po krivinama :)
 
Član
slazem se s tobom da vr6 od 2,8 izvuce samo 175 ks...........al on ima ogromnu osnovu za dalje nabrijavanje.......puno jace neg mnoga kola...... Nije problem nadrkat auto na kamaru konja (s parama moze sve) al je fazon da to auto ne crkne......Jebo auto od 400 ks i crkne nakon par gasova.... Vr da bi crko moras mu ulje ispustit iz motora i onako na suho ga poderat :)
 
Član
uzmes primjer golfa R32 240 ks fabricki ide ko mudo :) ali tom autu otvoris haubu i on odma skoci 50 ks :) i t d ima extra osnovu za tuniranje a crknut ne moze da ga silujes non stop.......... :) steta sto taj motor se ne moze nac ni u fabrici a kamoli na otpadu :( a rado bih ga imo pod haubom :)
 
HuKa je napisao(la):
uzmes primjer golfa R32 240 ks fabricki ide ko mudo :) ali tom autu otvoris haubu i on odma skoci 50 ks :) i t d ima extra osnovu za tuniranje a crknut ne moze da ga silujes non stop.......... :) steta sto taj motor se ne moze nac ni u fabrici a kamoli na otpadu :( a rado bih ga imo pod haubom :)

moze se taj motor naci, momak iz hrvatske je uzeo takav jedan i stavio ga u dvojku


u njemackoj takav motor kosta od 5000-6000 eura i svi ti motori su presli svega oko 5000 km, jest da su maksimum derani tu kilometrazu.

takav isti motor je u vw bubi koja ide za buba cup i ima firma koja od njih uzima te motore poslije trka, eventualno ih obradi i prodaje

samo da nadjem link pa cu staviti
 
Član
AAA
eingebaut 01.92-12.97
Zyl./Ven. 6/12
Hubraum ccm 2.792
Leistung kW/PS 128/174
bei 1/min 5800
Drehmoment bei 1/min 240/4200
Bohrung mm 81,0
Hub mm 92,8 90,3
Verdichtung 10,0
ROZ mind. 95
 
Član
I meni je se desilo ali mi se auto gasilo i trokalo, ali nije crkao!

Hoću reći da je taj motor jako osjetljiv! nije kako neki govore nepoderiv!
Neka ti samo jednom da valja nestane ulja, mozes se prčiti koliko ćeš štete imati!

Jednom sam na youtube-u naletio na video gdje japanci u neku hondu na kolcnama sipaju vodu umjesto ulja u motor i prze ga nenormalno dimi na sve strane, kasnije samo nasuli ulje i sve normala, to je reć nepoderiv motor!

Ne kazem ja da VR nevalja to je strašna pila danas sura mozda bih ga i ja ubacio u svoje vozilo, i vozio sam ga motor je strava, ali hoću samo da kaze da se mora dobdo dobro paziti na taj motor nesmije se zapustiti.
 

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Član
na nepoderivost se misli u smislu da mozes da deres motor 500 000 km i da on i dalje vozi. to i jeste prednost motora sa puno kubika i malo konja. ti motori mogu da izdrze jako dugo. eh sad ti ako naspes vode u cilindar on ce riknut da je neznam kakav. audi ima isti taj sistem na starim motorima. redni petak ima 2000 do 2300 kubika a imaju od 85 do 100 kW. al ti motori mogu jako jako dugo da se voze i jako tesko moze doc do zamora materijala pa da moras da radis generalku...
i jos nesto: 1.8T je audijev motor nemojte to da zaboravite.
za cijeli V.A.G koncern audi razvija motore...
tako da je V10 TDI iz touarega spojen 2 bloka od 5cyl(naravno saljeven novi kalup, ali baza je audijev redni petak), W12 su 2 VR-a i slicno. novi VW-ov motor je trocilindras za pola, fabiu, i ove male aute...
eto odo ja u OT izvinjavam se...
 
Član
Uz redovne servise i pazenja da ga se ne dere dok je hladan to jest dok ne nabije radnu temp. taj motor moze ukopat sve oko sebe a da mu ne bude nista.........taj motor fabricki je sila od motora a ja cu ga napravit jos "silnijim" :)
 
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